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Eh, can Malaysian Chinese betul-betul balik Cina (and get citizenship)?

*Article ni available dalam bahasa Melayu, tekan sini untuk baca!

Hey ugaiz! Hey ugaiz! Wanna hear a joke?

Q: What has more race issues than Formula One?

A: Malaysia

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Image from Genius.

Yea… sorry, we didn’t know if that wasn’t funny because it was a bad joke or because it was true; since it just seems that every so often, we’d be reading the news or comments on social media and be hit with a landslide of racist comments.

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Racist landslide!!!

Y’see, last week Red Shirt Rally guy Jamal Yunos claimed that business in Petaling Street was Chinese-dominated and that the Chinese weren’t sharing a slice of the pie. Jamal later threatened another riot in Petaling Street on September 26th unless action was taken against the sale of illegal and pirated goods. He was arrested and the riot was cancelled, but whatevs because…

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Jamal Yunos puttin his hands in the air like he just don’t care. Image from The Star.

 

This time, the Balik Cina comments were triggered by… China.

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Huang Huikang at Petaling Street. Image from Malaysiakini.

China literally walked in and joined the hoohah when its ambassador, Huang Huikang, dropped by Petaling Street on the day of the rally and was accused of interfering with Malaysia’s domestic affairs. While Huang said he was there to observe the mooncake festival and demonstrate that the area was still safe to visit, his statement at the end of the visit seemed to indicate something a little extra:

“The Chinese government has always pursued peaceful co-existence in international relationship and non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries. … But with regard to the infringement on China’s national interests, violations of legal rights and interests of Chinese citizens and businesses which may damage the friendly relationship between China and the host country, we will not sit by idly.” – Huang Huikang, as quoted by The Malay Mail Online.

Jamal Yunos jumped on this (once he got out of jail) by saying that it was proof that the Malaysian Chinese can balik cina if they’re not happy here:

“This is a clear message that the ethnic Chinese have a place to complain and protect their rights apart from Malaysia. … They have land or their country of origin China, and if anything were to happen to them they still have a place to rely on.” – Jamal Yunos, as quoted by The Malay Mail Online.

So this got some people asking (as evidenced by the chat below) – Can the Malaysian Chinese really balik Cina if they wanted to, and will China accept them? 

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This was an actual topic of conversation. Click for full size.

Yep. China actually HAS accepted overseas orang Cina before!

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Image from Attitude Inc.

Before we go into the reasons, here are some examples:

Malaysia

Back when this writer was still taking the schoolbus (van, actually), I was the first along the driver’s route so I always got the front seat.

My Chinese uncle van driver would tell me stories about his brother, and meeting him for the first time in 40+ years since his brother was sent to China for safety when the Japanese invaded Malaya in 1941. Some Malayan Chinese also returned to China to join the fight against the Japs. His brother was unable to return due to China’s adoption of Communism after the war.

Vietnam

Similarly in 1978, the Vietnamese government also introduced a program that cut back on private trade and commerce which (surprise surprise) affected many Chinese traders. This program allowed their property to be confiscated and for entire families to be forcefully relocated, prompting China to send ships to rescue the “victimized Chinese”. The ships actually stayed outside Vietnamese territorial waters for a few weeks while both governments tried to come to an agreement, eventually returning empty when both sides couldn’t come to one. However, China did accept as many as 660,000 Vietnamese Chinese who managed to find some way to escape.

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Chinese Propaganda poster. Image from HongKong Coconuts

Indonesia

The backstory to the status of Chinese Indonesians is too complicated to explain here, but China came to the rescue of Chinese Indonesians twice – once in 1959 when President Sukarno implemented his economic nationalism policy which prevented foreigners from doing business in rural areas, and in 1965 during the Indonesian Communist Purge. Both times, China sent rescue ships with Chinese officials urging the Chinese population to return “home”:

“We want none of our dear ones to suffer in foreign lands. … It is our hope that they all come back to the arms of the Motherland.” – Unnamed Chinese official, as quoted in the Los Angeles Times.

The massacre of the Indonesian Chinese also caused China and Indonesia to break off diplomatic relations from 1967 to 1990.

But… why does China even care about the Chinese who are staying outside of China?

 

Blame the jus

If you paid attention in Sejarah class, you might have heard of a term called Jus soli.

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Unedited image from Indomaret.

Jus soli is a fancy Latin word for “Right of Soil” which means that any person born within a certain country would automatically become a citizen of that country. Some countries place restrictions on this though, such as requiring that at least one parent to be a citizen of that country.

NAH, BACA:
In 1777, a Chinese gang in Borneo created the first democratic republic in S.E. Asia

However, China’s approach to citizenship was based on another principle called Jus sanguinis. This the fancy Latin word for “Right of Blood,” meaning that (in China’s context) citizenship is given based on ethnic roots. Jus sanguinis became the basis of a royal proclamation by the Manchu emperor that all people of Chinese descent could return to China at will. This was later adapted into China’s first citizenship law in 1909 which claimed every child of a Chinese father or mother, as a Chinese citizen. What this means is that as long as you have Chinese blood, you were, in the eyes of the Chinese government, a citizen of the People’s Republic of China regardless of where you were born.

Now, bringing it back to Ambassador Huang’s Petaling Street visit… During a speech presented the day after his visit, Huang reminded the Malaysian Chinese that China is still the home of their parents – adding that it was something he needed to emphasize to all Chinese living abroad.

“No matter how many generation you are of Chinese overseas, China is always the home of your parents.” – Huang Huikang, as quoted by The Rakyat Post.

Considering that China has defended Huang’s actions, does this mean that…. GASP!

Cina realization

 

(Un?)fortunately they stopped it in 1980

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Unedited image from Saporedicina.

A number of sources have noted that China’s concern of the overseas Chinese wasn’t completely due to the pure goodness of their hearts. The then-new People’s Republic of China wasn’t well-accepted (or trusted since, Communist) so they saw the overseas Chinese first as a way to establish contact with other countries such as Indonesia with the Sino-Indonesian Dual Nationality Treaty, and secondly as a way to raise funds and acquire skills from the returning Chinese.

However, they later realized that it really wasn’t such a great idea because it not only worsened diplomatic relations with other countries (like Indonesia and Vietnam mentioned earlier) but also made life worse for the overseas Chinese since they can never be fully separated from their link to China thanks to the unofficial secondary citizenship from China, and will always be viewed as an outsider since they could – if they wanted to – balik Cina at any time.

China revised its citizenship law in 1980, which now states that a person whose Chinese parents have settled abroad and have acquired foreign nationality is not entitled to Chinese citizenship. Ironically this revised law is now more restrictive than those of other countries, with no option for dual citizenship.

So yea… those asking the Malaysian Chinese to balik Cina are 36 years too late  🙂

 

But if given the option, would you balik Cina?

Obviously, the poll below is for our Chinese readers #sorryracist

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If you really think about it, going back to China makes perfect sense. The Chinese economy is booming, they’re poised to replace the US as a global Superpower, and there’ll be no Jamal Yunos types to ask you balik Cina because you’re already there!

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There’s even a pretty compelling argument that because of jus sanguinis and the Chinese tradition of working overseas for economic reasons, Chinese migrants were never able to fully integrate into their new countries because they always intended to return to China. This is why they’ve established Chinese schools and placed so much importance on maintaining their culture and language – even passing it on to their children who were born in the new country.

But that was generations ago.

The integration of the Chinese in this region has greatly improved in recent memory. In Australia, Melbourne elected it’s first Chinese Lord-Mayor in 2001 and there’s Penny Wong, who was born in Sabah to a Chinese-Malaysian father, and became the first Asian-born member of the Australian cabinet as well as its first openly lesbian one.

In Indonesia, steps have been taken to avoid another anti-Chinese riot like the one in 1998 by discarding barriers imposed by the previous governments – allowing Chinese Indonesians to use the Chinese language, celebrate festivals, and encouraging political and social involvement. And if you didn’t know it already, the next fact might blow your mind.

Jakarta’s current mayor is Basuki Tjahaja Purnama – a Chinese Christian.  

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We’re not sure how to pronounce his middle name, but it sounds like a laugh. Unedited image from Tempo.

*Note: A reader (Thanks Izzu and Nopadon!) informed us that “Tjahaja” is pronounced “Cahaya” or “Yahaya”. It’s old Indonesian spelling based on Dutch. 

And in Malaysia, well… um… this writer at least, regards Malaysia as home. As a personal note, I don’t speak Chinese very well. I spent a week eating beef noodles in China because all I knew how to say was “niu ro la mein” (Beef noodles) and “xie xie” (Thank you), and I don’t know any relatives in China, and neither does my 92-year old grandmother. Heck, we don’t even know which village our ancestors were from. Every trip to China I’ve made was as a tourist, and Malaysia was the home I returned to. Really, the only time I ever chose China was when I played Command & Conquer: Generals at the cybercafe.

And remember that Whatsapp chat screencapped in the beginning of this article? Here’s the later part of the conversation:

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Click for full size.

 

“That day I met a china foot masseur who was telling me “you Malaysian Chinese must work hard to make Malaysia part of China.”

I was a bit befuddled and told her, “thanks, but Malaysia is an independent country.”

I hv no plan B or C or D. I only hv Malaysia. I hv thot of options fleetingly before … And I don’t suppose it’s too difficult to pursue those. But I’ve decided am staying put in my one and only home.”

 

 

39 Comments

  1. chsr

    03/12/2015 at 9:27 pm

    Chinese people is Chinese that’s all.

  2. Simon Chen

    09/10/2015 at 4:52 pm

    Wow! That answers it well! Thanks for the info.
    To all Malaysian Chinese, stay back and struggle with us. There are plenty of Malaysians out there who are with you.
    Jamal Yunos was pissed because there is no grilled fish in Petaling Street. Poor guy!

  3. Leonardo Chin

    05/10/2015 at 1:38 am

    those wanna feel the real 1malaysia? just come to sabah sarawak then u will feel it. just try avoid some pti. lol

    • mich

      05/10/2015 at 2:06 pm

      That’s only true on a superficial level. West Malaysians are not really welcomed by East Malaysians. Just ask groups like Sarawak for Sarawakians, and those West Malaysians who need a work permit to work in these 2 states.

  4. Nopadon

    05/10/2015 at 1:25 am

    Tjahaja dieja sbg ‘Cahaya’.

    • Nopadon

      05/10/2015 at 1:26 am

      Atau Yahaya

    • Lotfi

      13/10/2015 at 10:01 pm

      No. Yahaya in old Indonesian spelling is Jahaja.

      Tj becomes C
      J becomes Y

      Also, Dj becomes J

      Note that in Malay, Ch becomes C.

    • Uihua Cheah

      07/10/2015 at 6:53 pm

      Terima kasih @sophoncharoenpura:disqus. Dah dibetulkan, dengan credit 🙂

  5. izzu

    04/10/2015 at 5:43 pm

    ‘Tjahaja’ is pronounced as, if i am not mistaken, ‘Cahaya’. It is old Bahasa Indonesia spelling that was based on Dutch.

    • Uihua Cheah

      04/10/2015 at 6:50 pm

      Thanks man, I’ll add that into the article (with credit!)

  6. Edward Lye

    04/10/2015 at 3:45 pm

    Does anyone know why we are spelt Cina instead of China? It sounds too much like hina and in another form sin-ner. When this first started, I felt insulted and I still fell insulted. I don’t understand why Puteri Charles, son of Elizabeth gets to keep his “h”.

    • Uihua Cheah

      04/10/2015 at 6:49 pm

      In Indonesia, “Cina” is considered a derogatory term. The preferred term is “Tionghua”

    • DavidLiou

      05/10/2015 at 11:03 am

      Well, didn;t know that.

    • Ahmad Syauqi Bin Hamzah

      05/10/2015 at 4:25 pm

      Hence why the opposition like DSAI always use the term “Masyarakat Tionghua”~

    • Lotfi

      13/10/2015 at 10:09 pm

      Yes. And the call China (the country) Tiongkok.

    • Lotfi

      13/10/2015 at 10:08 pm

      What used to be ch is now spelt using c in Malay. So China becomes Cina. Got nothing to do with hina or sinner. C in Malay is pronounced like the ch in church.

      The change does not affect foreign proper nouns like Charles, but words which have been accepted into the Malay language (such as China, for people of Chinese ethnicity… as opposed to China the country) are affected.

      By the way, it should be Putera Charles, not Puteri Charles. Puteri is Princess. Putera means Prince.

  7. jack

    04/10/2015 at 10:26 am

    First of all the Malays should balik Indon too they are pendatangs and only the orang asli, kadazan, etc should have bumi rights. Stop stealing from the natural aborigines u descendants of indon pendatangs. The hilarious part is? That the Malay race consist of Indons, Arab, Pakistani, Mamak/Indian, etc. All the politicans and racist should go back to their native countries. But heck you will anyway once Msia’s debt is over 1 trillion or worse 2 trillion and the nation is very close to bankruptcy and the govt deb is a few hundred percent of it’s income which btw would have decreased to half or 1/3 it was. Then we can print money and devalue it like the rupiah! Afterall back to your Indon roots right?

    • tanaka kayler

      04/10/2015 at 10:48 pm

      Lol, I guess you need to read more about the history of Nusantara. Malaya, Indonesia, Temasik (now Singapore) Borneo and some islands is actually considered as one archipelago. Means there is no country named Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia at that time. There wass no border of these countries, no visa when you landing, and also no nationality of one nation. It’s just like Hong Kong, Taiwan and China. Back to hundred or thousand years ago these three countries is actually one nation. So back to your question again, our ancestor might came from Indonesia, but you must know at that time Malaya was also part of it. They just traveled in their country too. It is just like when you crossing from Peninsular Malaysia to Sabah or Sarawak. You still considered as Malaysian. Why should we go back when actually we were originated from here. I don’t intended to be racist here or write any foolish statement. After all, I just speak on behalf of history. Personally I don’t hate Chinese and Indian. I got many Chinese friends who more kind to me rather than my races. In fact, I was the only one Malay guy in class during university time. But no grudge, no hateful, in fact we learned together, ate together, played together as well. So far what I know, our racist problem is created by old generation. They have brought many rumors about other races. My Chinese friend told me her grandmother always told him to do not be friend with Malay and Indian because we are lazy. And our skin is dark. Same with my grandmother, she always told me Chinese always greed on money and live only for money. But I believe every races got bad people. Just because you are Chinese, it doesn’t mean you greed on money. Just because I am Malay, it’s doesn’t mean I am lazy. Our problem as Malaysian is we always blame races instead of individual.

    • qiuwei

      04/12/2015 at 12:04 pm

      not really, most “malay” were from indonesia islands AFTER nusantara no longer exist. you can’t back date and claim something that no longer exist. most malay are as foreign to the land as chinese are and that is the fact.

      if you do that, you might as well argue america and europe used to be 1 continent, they were, that still doesn’t make white people native to america. 😉

  8. MusaNg

    03/10/2015 at 8:26 pm

    UiHua,

    Interesting article.

    From what I can see China is stepping up to claim a spot as a world superpower and they have done it in less than half the time Malaysia has had.

    Personally, I do not believe that bit about the foot masseur asking Malaysian Chinese to help make Malaysia part of China.

    Only fools believe that Beijing is so stupid as to ask for help from a minority which has next to zero political power.

    What next? Chinese GROs are actually sent to Malaysia to seduce Malaysians into submission?

    What Beijing will do is simply buy Malaysia off UMNO/BN.

    No, don’t laugh! Do you think Beijing does not understand how to corrupt a ruling class especially one which is already corrupt?

    Don’t believe me?

    Go look at how many African and Latin American countries owned by China under the guise of “foreign aid” or “economic co-operation”. Go ahead, Google is your friend 🙂

    • Uihua Cheah

      04/10/2015 at 6:47 pm

      I’m glad you brought this up @Musa_Ng:disqus! I was actually working on another article about Chinese Realpolitik, and how all these – the Petaling Street visit, the financial aid, etc are China’s way of flexing their political and economic muscle.

      On the flipside, it can be argued that the US is trying to do the same thing with the TPP.

      I can’t comment on the authenticity of the foot masseuse quote, though previous excursions to (clean!) massage parlors have indicated that they do make some pretty weird statements. Either that or my friends mistranslated them 🙂

    • MusaNg

      05/10/2015 at 12:21 pm

      “….I can’t comment on the authenticity of the foot masseuse quote, though
      previous excursions to (clean!) massage parlors have indicated that they
      do make some pretty weird statements. Either that or my friends
      mistranslated them :)…”

      Being a really boring sort of guy, I have never been to any massage parlor ever, anywhere on this planet (no lie), so , yeah… yeah.. sure, man, I will believe you re your visits to clean massage parlors 🙂

      Heheheheh!!

      On a more serious note, I look forward to your article on China flexing it’s political and economic muscle. You might want to include the bit about how China admonish the US several years ago for losing it’s triple A+ rating. 🙂

    • Uihua Cheah

      07/10/2015 at 6:48 pm

      It’s trueeeeeeeeee!! Serious!

      Yeah, the research for that topic’s really interesting, but the problem is in finding a way to explain the whole thing without our readers falling asleep or have their heads exploding.

      But if the article tak jadi I suppose I could just post up the links to the research journals. Errbody loves research journals 😛

    • Simon Chen

      09/10/2015 at 4:47 pm

      Can’t wait for that article. Also, there is a Youtube channel called “China Uncensored”. You might want to look that up. It has awesome commentary of China’s politics.

  9. Choen Lee

    03/10/2015 at 12:48 pm

    You are getting Malaya and Malaysia mixed up. The concept of Malaysia was nowhere close to being conceived in the 40s.

    You are also mixing up the governments of the qing imperial china, the first republic of China, and the current people’s republic of China. All are different regimes with differing policies.

    • Uihua Cheah

      04/10/2015 at 6:36 pm

      Noted on that @choenlee:disqus. Unfortunately it had to be simplified for the purpose of this article cause covering the whole thing in full would’ve made many readers’ heads go spinny spinny boom boom. Even writing the transition of policies from Qing to KMT to PRC would have left many tears on my keyboard.

  10. Merc

    03/10/2015 at 10:57 am

    Us nons should leave if possible, to another country without institutionalized racism. Lets be honest, we’re mercenary at heart, or else your ancestors wouldn’t have left China/India/whatever, so don’t be naive. The Malaysian Malays don’t want us, or want us to convert, or assimilate and masuk Melayu, or want us to be good little Dhimmis and bow to their supposed supremacy of race and religion while thanking them for using lube while taking it from behind. You want a country with harmony between Chinese, Indians and Malays? Look south to Singapore. They have succeeded. The ship has sailed for Malaysia, and it is sinking. Build up riches in Malaysia, and then leave. Let them rot for their arrogance, in supposing that just because they’re of a certain ethnicity or believe in a certain god they’re superior to us. We’re at home in any country in the world because we’re good at playing the second fiddle. There’s such a large non-m Malaysian diaspora in Australia, so you won’t feel homesick. If your generation is unable to move, build up the next so that they can leave.

    • Cheong Heng Weng

      03/10/2015 at 11:28 am

      Sure, make your plans for you and your future generation. But don’t forget to lend support to those who still believe in the spirit of Malaysia, love the country and want to stay and fight the good fight.

    • Merc

      03/10/2015 at 11:38 am

      “Spirit of Malaysia”? You mean the spirit of “oh thank you so much for giving us citizenship, here let me clean your shoes for you tuan”? And the institutionalized Orwellian system? Read Animal Farm by George Orwell if you don’t understand what I’m talking about, ie the “All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others” part. You can find the spirit of Malaysia in a food court in Sydney or Singapore, or wherever there’s a huge ex-Malaysian diaspora. You want to see Meng eating char siew next to Abu eating beef rendang next to Chandra having a beer and everyone having a good time? Only in Singapore. No one calls you cina babi, tells you to balik tongsan or burns your church. The only support I plan on giving is for those finding it hard to leave. If you want to stay, good luck, I hear the haze is wonderful this time of the year, and the redshirts too.

    • Cheong Heng Weng

      03/10/2015 at 12:39 pm

      Sorry, I’m not referring to THAT spirit of Malaysia. Im talking about the one you described happening in Sydney and Singapore. I still experienced that here, admittedly less in Semenanjung than Sabah Sarawak. But at Jalan Ipoh, KL, I once ate char siu wanton mee and chatted with this Malay aunty who sells nasi lemak and kueh just outside the coffeeshop. We’ve even discussed religion without feeling awkward. I have muslim friends who keep dogs as pets. There are a number of mixed marriages in my extended family. It is for the sake of people like the nasi lemak aunty, sensible muslims, my non-chinese families and Malaysians in general who dont see colour that I speak. There are poeple who still believe in the TRUE spirit of Malaysia, which is we’re put on this blessed land to know one another and build bridges and not walls. Of course there are a lot of bigots in that mix, but that’s why some people choose to stay and fight. Call it foolish bravado if you will, but I just can’t stand to watch the bigots win and lord over the good people. I’m not critical of your choice to leave because everyone has the right to find the best way to seek happiness for themselves and their future generations, just asking you to try not to be so dismissive of people who think differently. In case you’re not staying in KL, yes I can confirm the haze is wonderful, the redshirts are nowhere to be seen, I dont clean other people’s shoes and I do know what Orwellian means (I still think 1984 is the better read).

    • mich

      03/10/2015 at 7:03 pm

      I wholeheartedly agree with Merc. Sadly, I think that this belief in the “spirit of Malaysian camaraderie” is just too idealistic. There are many other countries much more multicultural and cosmopolitan than Malaysia.
      In my view, the Malaysian government is like an abusive partner and the non-Malays will forever be slapped around.
      I seriously doubt that a change of government is going to bring about equal rights for Indians, Chinese and others (not including Ibans, Bidayuhs, Kadazans, etc as they too hold bumiputra privilege).
      Maybe, if we want to be optimistic, in 20 years we might abolish special privilege for bumis, but I’m not going to stick around and waste 20 years of my life in hopes that will happen. Also, I don’t think it’ll be fair for my children too if I did not try to give them a chance at having an equal playing field.
      Yes, this is where we were born, and where several generations of our ancestors were too, but that’s just clinging on to sentimental notions. Like I said, if you were in an abusive relationship, why make excuses to stick around?

    • Cheong Heng Weng

      03/10/2015 at 8:35 pm

      Too idealistic for some and an ideal to aspire to for others. Different people have different experiences and it is OK for those who feel disillusioned or feel like an abused partner to sever ties with their roots. Everyone is free to walk their own path. All I am saying is don’t be dismissive or insult the efforts of those who have more positive experiences fighting the injustice in Malaysia.

    • Simon Chen

      09/10/2015 at 4:43 pm

      It seems that guy want to give up really fast.

    • Chak Onn Lau

      04/10/2015 at 10:40 pm

      I feel this requires my favourite Harold n Kumar Quote. “You don’t have to believe in your government. You just have to believe in your country!” https://youtu.be/v-6UE610I5k?t=249

    • Merc

      05/10/2015 at 7:51 am

      I would reply with this scene from Code Geass R2, episode 8.

      Zero: What does it mean to be Japanese? To be a nation?
      Suzaku: What?
      Zero: Language? Territory? Blood ties?
      Suzaku: No! That’s not it! It’s your heart!
      Zero: I agree. Awareness of self, their mores, and pride. In short, so long as they have the roots of their culture in their hearts, then they are Japanese no matter where they live!

      Ergo, you don’t need to be in Malaysia, or even hold citizenship to be genuinely “Malaysian”. And, I would rather the next generation of nons not grow up being told that they will always be behind their bumi friends just because they’re of the wrong skin colour or pray to a different god.

      “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” And until the constitution is amended, my “Malaysian” dream lies outside of Malaysia.

  11. Ain

    03/10/2015 at 9:15 am

    Malay didn’t realised that all these propaganda will just hurt malaysian economy. Trying to divert the attention to a more serious problem that we have in malaysia “corruption”. If we malaysian all sort of race and gender still fall for some people who is trying to provoke the harmony that our past leader had been trying to preserve, we soon going to be like the neighbouring country. Malaysian once wason of the 5 tiger in asian economy, fell way backward bcos we fall for some corrupt government propaganda to divert the attention of the real problem. Time for us to wake up and think of a real problem. Don’t want bcos of this stupidity we all going to get hurt. Our generations. Sad that some malays willing to do anything without thinking about the consequences of their country.

    • Simon Chen

      09/10/2015 at 4:49 pm

      I get it. UMNO been around way too long; you can guess what does that too to our country’s educational system/policy, Biro Tata Negara being its infamous product.

  12. Vince goh

    03/10/2015 at 8:09 am

    Why not everyone go back to their own country where their forefather came from except the orang asli?. If not, stop politicing these racial issues esp those UMNO bigots who started it all!

    • Simon Chen

      09/10/2015 at 4:49 pm

      : )) It is the greed for power, bro.

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